Comments on: How to cheat good https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/ Things that interest me. Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:43:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: Why I Stay https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-362432 Sat, 12 Sep 2015 05:43:14 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-362432 t alone in jumping ship. I noted in a blog post that I had submitted my last grades at Buffalo, and many assumed I was quitting academia, rather […]]]> […] I was teaching was on the chopping block. Naturally, I wasn’t alone in jumping ship. I noted in a blog post that I had submitted my last grades at Buffalo, and many assumed I was quitting academia, rather […]

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By: handsome black kid https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-233058 Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:57:53 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-233058 Fuck you hoe. i will plagerize till the day i fuckin die… or at least till i get my agree. you fuckin professors waisting my money giving me shitty classes that aint got shit to do with my major anyway. fuck english, i’m a business major.

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By: Gideon https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-232557 Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:09:12 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-232557 Not plagiarism: but a freshman lab student once wrote “I have improved the measured results, so as to fit better with theory”. I just wrote “please do not do such things again” in thick red pen in his lab book.

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By: seekingnevada https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-215785 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:53:18 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-215785 I’ve never even had the faintest temptation to cheat, but that didn’t stop me from being accused of it late in my first year of college. According to my friends, my response was priceless: a look of pure offended horror, followed by a “Why would I copy other people’s work?” Turned out my language really kicks up a gear when I go from writing-essays-in-class to writing-assignments-with-full-reading-and-referencing, so it suddenly looked very different, and the teacher (unlike those I’d had in school) didn’t recognise it as my style. C’est la vie, I suppose.

However, our college had worked out an easy way of finding out whether the student knew what they were talking about. Get them to talk about it, with no notes, for five minutes or so. It soon becomes very apparent who’s done the work and who hasn’t.

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By: Kitty Jay https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-214525 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:23:20 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-214525 Oh, boy.

Blatant plagiarism is bad enough for the student involved, but it trickles down to the rest of us. I had a 4.0, was in the honors program for English, LAH honors, and was a double-major in Latin. For this one class, I had turned in two previous papers and gotten A’s with glowing comments on both. I turned in my third paper and the teacher accused me of cheating because it was “too polished”. To be fair, I don’t think he thought I copied so much as I had written it before or something, but it was extremely upsetting. Even worse, he didn’t accuse me officially so I couldn’t really file a complaint or anything–but he severely damaged my credibility with the other professors in the department, and I had to write my thesis the next year. So yeah, it’s not only dishonest, but it hurts the rest of us who actually work on our papers, too.

On a lighter note, I work at the writing center at my college and there are tons of rules about what we can/can’t do to avoid any hints of “collusion”. Quite often I’ll have ESL kids come in who don’t cite–not because they are trying to actively cheat, but the Western system of citing everything isn’t what they were taught. I usually gently remind them that they need to cite their sources. Then we get native speakers who come in and have paragraphs like: “The dichotomy between the natural world and the mechanical one creates an underlying tension throughout the novel. These are good. I think the natural world is better.”

Um, pretty obvious. I have no authority to report cheating, so I usually point it out and say, “Oh, so what were you trying to say here?” and wait while they hem and haw their way through an explanation… If I notice it, trust me, your teacher is going to notice it.

Anyway, lovely article–when I’m a professor, I’m so putting a copy of this up somewhere!

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By: defaultturd https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-213785 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:49:53 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-213785 yeah… if that worked for the Los Angeles School District, I’m sure there’s more coming this way.

I assume that this form of cheating only applies to writing papers, which goes for only so far in secondary education.

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By: Lisa https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-210539 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:16:55 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-210539 I just gave a student a zero because about 15% of his paper had come from Wikipedia. He asked why he failed the essay assignment. I told him that it was because he plagiarised. He asked me to explain. I showed him the Turnitin report and the word-for-word passages cut and pasted directly from Wikipedia. I pointed out that they were not placed in quotes. I showed him that Wikipedia wasn’t in the references list. He said, “So basically what you’re saying is that it’s a referencing problem. I think it’s pretty harsh that you’re just failing me for a referencing problem.”

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By: Taruna https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-203562 Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:19:11 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-203562 Hi! Alex – I am your student from the Informatics Class of 2003. Yes, I remember that you actually informed our class that you use turnitin.com and we shouldnt bother plagerizing! It was one of the best classes I ever took.

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By: Bimzabuay https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-201490 Fri, 09 May 2008 02:02:08 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-201490 A. Yes that is my real name.
B. Why at the top of the page people are complaining about the writing in british thing?

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By: Tom https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-200767 Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:35:47 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-200767 Above all, do not select a professor that uses Turnitin.com what ever you do!!!

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By: a thaumaturgical compendium » Blog Archive » My power-lawed blog https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-198534 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:22:03 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-198534 […] In order to make these figures more legible, I have omitted the most popular post, entitled “How to Cheat Good,” which was the target of 435 backlinks by August of 2007, and had collected 264 […]

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By: eslam https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-197203 Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:58:02 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-197203 how i make cheats

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By: Shalom https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-196981 Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:47:54 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-196981 I was at UB myself, but I doubt we ever crossed paths: I was a pharmacy student, and did my pre-pharmacy studies at CUNY/Brooklyn.

I remember when I was taking Economics 10.1, which was the first course in Brooklyn’s idiosyncratic numbering system. This wasn’t required by my major (which was Chemistry at the time), but would have been required by the pharmacy program at a different pharmacy school (which I didn’t wind up attending, as it happened).

I think this was the first course the Business majors took right out of high school, and the only class I’d ever taken where I felt like I was back there. The professor couldn’t control the class, although he shouldn’t have had to in a college-level course, and there was much conversation going on around me. Every ten minutes or so, he’d say “Uh, can we have a little quiet here?’, and it would be quiet for maybe a minute, then the talking started back up. Not even whispering, talking at normal conversational volume. I think I must have been the only one paying attention, even though I hated economics, and still do. (Got an A in the class anyhow.)

Came exam time, and suddenly I had twenty new-found friends. I sat down, and all the students who had been aimlessly milling about in the back sat down around me. I got up and moved across the lecture hall, and they all rose and followed me. Come on, guys, at least try and make it less blatant? I wound up covering my answer sheet with a blank paper and writing with my hand underneath it. One guy behind me then had the chutzpah to offer me $20 to uncover the paper! I told him how he could fold the 20 and where he could subsequently insert it. (Well, OK, not really, I just told him to get lost.)

He said, “Come on, man, please help me out! I really need to pass this class!” I responded, “Well, you should’ve studied then, shouldn’t you’.

By my last exam in that class, I was so P.O.’d at the cheating that I wrote my (multiple choice) answers in Hebrew characters, and then gave the professor (who I don’t think could read Hebrew) a key: aleph=A, beis=B, etc.

(Come to think of it, in elementary school, I once wrote an exam in invisible ink, then gave the decoder pen to my teacher. He wasn’t best pleased by this. I wish I’d remembered that one in college.)

I have to wonder. I never saw such outright copying in any other class I took, nor such disrespect for the teacher. The science majors who I hung out with (out with whom I hung?) weren’t like this, nor the math majors in my sister’s classes, nor the pharmacy students at UB. Was this deliberate, as a way to prepare them for what passes for ethics in the business world?

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By: a thaumaturgical compendium » Blog Archive » Slow Blog Death https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-196913 Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:17:39 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-196913 […] How to cheat good, The Isuzu experiment, Capstone defenses, del.icio.us for class, BestBlogForward (ironically, an effort to publicize the most popular posts), Bariata: November Archives, A bad few days, School of Informatics post-mortem, Check this out: Informatics Dissolution, WordPress.com, The graduate, NoFollow for WordPress, Bloglines Step-by-Step, Really Sexy Sindication, Last stops to Buffalo, Ask Alex: Getting a communications Ph.D. […]

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By: Jennifer https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-196436 Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:33:54 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-196436 Wow. I thought I was the only one with REALLY STUPID students.

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By: My Requirements Are Simple... « BeanQuest https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-193570 Sat, 05 May 2007 17:51:41 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-193570 […] Brian needs to combine two or more site links – Sheesh, I can knock this one out right now! How about this and this? […]

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By: Queenie https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-6/#comment-192819 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:55:34 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-192819 As a student, I understand the desire to cheat, thereby quickly completing the essay/paper/test. Also, as a student who has successfully passed under the radar, cheating, and doing it well, takes about as much time as doing the assignment itself. If you actually read the articles you are plagiarizing and understand the material, then there is no harm done, except saving yourself some time. When, cheating correct the cheated material, so it contains only terminology you know, and is written in your style. In essence, edit the paper so it “sounds” like you. I don’t understand what English teachers call “voice” and thereby can instinctively tell if you are cheating, but I do know that one has caught me cheating. I am an A student without copying others, so when I cheat, I don’t need to “dumb it down.” If you’re a C student, you Must make the work “sound” like C quality work, something you could write. Also, never use the popular search engines, that’s where the teachers go to check for plagiarism. Go to a little known engine, search, find something you like reading, and then enter the first sentence into Google, MSN, and Yahoo. If that article is on the first page or so, don’t use that article. Most teachers won’t look after the first page. Also, if you can register to a paid, private service that provides journals, essays, and research papers, then you are not as likely to be caught as if you used a free essay. Just some tips. I could go on at length, but I think the profs that replied would leave hate mail at my doorstep. They don’t want students to learn how to really succeed at cheating.

Oh, once, in middle school, I had no time to write a English paper, having been busy the entire month with other extracurricular activities. So I found an excellent paper online, and quoted the entire thing. Right down to the Worked Cited. Technically, I had done nothing wrong, because on my own Worked Cited, I cited, in proper MLA format, where the paper had come from. Anyway, the teacher found it hysterical, but requested that I rewrite it, “with less quotes.” She gave a week to get the rewrite done, and I did so in good humor, having gotten the time extension I wanted. I got a B on the paper I wrote, for it being late.

I believe, that as college students, we are paying you and are the consumer. It is your job to make your subject matter engaging and understandable, so that most students have no desire to cheat, except for the incredibly lazy/stupid ones that truly do not care. Even if you just threaten to send our papers through a plagiarism machine, we probably won’t cheat, for fear of getting caught.

As an American child, I used to enjoy taking on a British manner. I liked using the ‘u’ in colour and honourable. I found it way cool. So I read a lot of British literature, so I could write like the Brits do. I don’t think changing code is that big a deal, and isn’t a surefire way of detecting cheating.

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By: Millato https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-5/#comment-167839 Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:31:42 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-167839 Nice :) I agree this you.

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By: SJS https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-5/#comment-167124 Tue, 07 Nov 2006 03:23:59 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-167124 It’s important that the penalty for cheating be significantly more than simply not turning in the assignment. Otherwise, there’s an incentive to cheat. And when students are customers, they want to be sure of getting a degree from a *respectable* university/college, so the penalty isn’t because the teachers/graders are fascist rule-followers with not concept of the new paradigms the come with the internet, the penalty is because the students to *paid* and then *did the work* deserve something other than “Oh, you got your degree at Plagiarism U., well, that’s nice, but a flatworm could get a degree there, bye!” when they go looking for a job, or a grad school.

Cheating isn’t a victimless crime. It’s destroying the value of a degree for all those students who aren’t cheating.

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By: “Procrastination is like a credit card…” « LiberryDwarf https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-5/#comment-165753 Fri, 03 Nov 2006 00:44:56 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-165753 […] 3) Since I brought you a blog last week, it’s only fair I should bring you another one this week. In the spirit of tomorrow’s exam, this one is http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427 “How to Cheat Good.” May it do us all some good… […]

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By: The Stingy Scholar » Blog Archive » Things I Probably Should Have Mentioned https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-5/#comment-162296 Mon, 23 Oct 2006 23:11:21 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-162296 […] Professor Alex Halavais shares some advice on How to Cheat Better. Tired of reviewing poor attempts, he suggests the students make a decent effort and follow some of his tips such as “Borrow from someone who writes as badly as you do” and “Edit>Paste Special>Unformatted Text”. […]

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By: Mujercita https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-5/#comment-156933 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 21:21:00 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-156933 My mother, an English professor, once received a paper which began, “To those of us who knew William Faulkner…”

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By: Albert https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-5/#comment-155707 Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:22:47 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-155707 Is anybody here?

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By: kicking_k https://alex.halavais.net/how-to-cheat-good/comment-page-5/#comment-147042 Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:08:33 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=1427#comment-147042 *the kids wouldn’t have been _able to_ tell me…*

Sorry.

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