Comments on: Does (American-style) Democracy Work? https://alex.halavais.net/does-american-style-democracy-work/ Things that interest me. Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:52:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: alex https://alex.halavais.net/does-american-style-democracy-work/comment-page-1/#comment-204155 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:52:45 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=2122#comment-204155 I worry about the terms “left” and “right”; “conservative” and “liberal” since they hide a lot of flaws. Being directly between the right and left in this country puts you in a very conservative position, and in the wrong plain all together.

I have problems with policy positions in both campaigns. Voting is all about compromise. I know that someone that directly represents my positions would never be elected president.

But particularly in this election it seems pretty clear how the candidates stack up on some of the deciding issues. It’s hard to straddle questions like US involvement in Iraq, economic policy, heathcare policy, ethics, and human and civil rights.

On this last, I am disappointed in Obama’s willingness to give AT&T and others amnesty for violating the rights of its subscribers. But on this example (and similar examples) it’s not like McCain has done better.

I frankly question whether McCain has his wits about him. It’s a sacred cow, given that demographics of voting, to suggest that someone is too old to lead, but the last thing we need is Reagan redux: someone in the White House who is no longer mentally competent, leaving power to whoever can grab it.

And if McCain were to die–not beyond consideration for a 71-year-old, the oldest candidate to run for a first-term presidency–we are left with Palin, who not only demonstrates a lack of judgment on McCain’s part, but a frightening prospect for US president. How can we elect someone to that office who believes that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time? We’ll become a beacon of religious extremism around the world–a label we are already trying to shake off with a current president who has called out involvement in Iraq a “Crusade.”

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By: Indie Voter https://alex.halavais.net/does-american-style-democracy-work/comment-page-1/#comment-204152 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:50:02 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=2122#comment-204152 In a way, I envy those who are either firmly on the left or firmly on the right – they always know where they stand. But for those of us who are centrists, things are not as clear-cut. At this point in time, I am still undecided. I assure you that there is nothing deficient in my reasoning – I will most likely make my decision following the debates. And even then it will still come down to holding my nose with one hand and filling out the ballot with the other.

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By: alex https://alex.halavais.net/does-american-style-democracy-work/comment-page-1/#comment-204151 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:35:20 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=2122#comment-204151 I don’t know about the education levels of Republicans and Democrats more generally, and made no claim regarding that. But despite your anecdotal evidence, one of the starkest differences in support for McCain or Obama is how much education you have. A Gallup poll from earlier this year showed that those with a HS diploma or less favored McCain (46% to 40%), while those with a postgraduate degree favored Obama (52% to 42%). Obviously, as those numbers indicate, there are uneducated Obama supporters and educated McCain supporters, but there is also clearly a correlation between education and the candidate someone is likely to support.

To reiterate, this isn’t about the parties: I am an independent, and know a number of very bright Republicans as well as Democrats. As an aside, the same poll indicated that in a theoretical match-up against Clinton, the education groups would be much closer, and indeed Clinton would win among the least educated group and McCain among the most educated (though only by a few points in each case). And when Gore ran, he was more popular among the most and least educated voters, but not the middle. So, I was only making a claim about these two candidates, in this election.

This may be simply that McCain was near the bottom of his graduating class and Obama near the top of his, and so people vote for the person the perceive to be most like themselves. But I suspect–as I said above–that the major difference is that the emotional appeal is more effective among McCain supporters, who are less versed in analytical decision making.

As far as being undecided this close to the election, there really are only a couple of possibilities: you haven’t taken the time to find out the candidates’ positions, or you are unable to reach a decision based on the data you have. We are all “undecided” to some extent until we step into the polling booth. And I could certainly be more sympathetic if the candidates were more similar in their approaches. But if you really are unable to make a decision based on the data you already have been presented–and by the behavior of the candidates in the race–I stand by my earlier suggestion, there’s something deficient in your reasoning.

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By: Indie Voter https://alex.halavais.net/does-american-style-democracy-work/comment-page-1/#comment-204150 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:17:56 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=2122#comment-204150 One more thing: as an Independent (and undecided) voter, I do care about the issues. The reason I’m still undecided is because I agree with Obama on some issues, and McCain on others. I don’t appreciate anyone telling me how I should vote, and I also don’t appreciate the fact that some people think they “know” me, and that somehow, this gives them the right to judge me.

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By: Indie Voter https://alex.halavais.net/does-american-style-democracy-work/comment-page-1/#comment-204149 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:12:11 +0000 http://alex.halavais.net/?p=2122#comment-204149 So Republicans tend to be “less educated” than Democrats, huh? Most of the Republicans I know are dentists, physicians, attorneys, and senior vice presidents in many different industries. I also know a number of Democrats who do not have college degrees. Please don’t make sweeping generalizations like some other “typical Obama supporters”. As an educated person, you should know better.

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